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		<title>By: philip</title>
		<link>http://codemonkeyism.com/scala-and-intellij-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-170071</link>
		<dc:creator>philip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 07:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted some comments regarding IntelliJ here

http://stephan.reposita.org/archives/2008/09/17/scala-and-netbeans/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted some comments regarding IntelliJ here</p>
<p><a href="http://stephan.reposita.org/archives/2008/09/17/scala-and-netbeans/" rel="nofollow">http://stephan.reposita.org/archives/2008/09/17/scala-and-netbeans/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Spiewak</title>
		<link>http://codemonkeyism.com/scala-and-intellij-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-168309</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Spiewak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Are implicits scoped? Perhaps it’s good to have them 
&gt; some classes or traits. This would prevent the open 
&gt; classes problem of Ruby and make it easier for IDEs. Hmm.

Quite so.  :-)  Implicits are scoped and have to be explicitly imported (or inherited) from where they are defined.  If the function itself is not available *unqualified* in your current referencing context, then the conversion is inapplicable.  I haven&#039;t written any tooling for Scala, but I would imagine that you are right about it making it easier on IDE writers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Are implicits scoped? Perhaps it’s good to have them<br />
&gt; some classes or traits. This would prevent the open<br />
&gt; classes problem of Ruby and make it easier for IDEs. Hmm.</p>
<p>Quite so.  :-)  Implicits are scoped and have to be explicitly imported (or inherited) from where they are defined.  If the function itself is not available *unqualified* in your current referencing context, then the conversion is inapplicable.  I haven&#8217;t written any tooling for Scala, but I would imagine that you are right about it making it easier on IDE writers.</p>
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		<title>By: stephan</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel: You&#039;re right of course. But what I meant with &quot;can&#039;t do better&quot;:

An Ruby IDE could just listen to the runtime VM and all unit tests and gather most of the needed information. 

I fear that implementing type inference in IDEA and scanning the whole classpath for implicits etc. is not much easier than listening to a running Ruby VM and therefore might take a long time / big effort to implement.

Are implicits scoped? Perhaps it&#039;s good to have them some classes or traits. This would prevent the open classes problem of Ruby and make it easier for IDEs. Hmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel: You&#8217;re right of course. But what I meant with &#8220;can&#8217;t do better&#8221;:</p>
<p>An Ruby IDE could just listen to the runtime VM and all unit tests and gather most of the needed information. </p>
<p>I fear that implementing type inference in IDEA and scanning the whole classpath for implicits etc. is not much easier than listening to a running Ruby VM and therefore might take a long time / big effort to implement.</p>
<p>Are implicits scoped? Perhaps it&#8217;s good to have them some classes or traits. This would prevent the open classes problem of Ruby and make it easier for IDEs. Hmm.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Spiewak</title>
		<link>http://codemonkeyism.com/scala-and-intellij-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-167294</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Spiewak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Theoretically speaking, there&#039;s no reason that implicits would make it *impossible* to implement an IDE that is functionally superior to one implemented for a dynamic language.  That&#039;s not to say that it&#039;s easy or always algorithmically efficient, but I don&#039;t think there&#039;s any danger of impossibility on the horizon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theoretically speaking, there&#8217;s no reason that implicits would make it *impossible* to implement an IDE that is functionally superior to one implemented for a dynamic language.  That&#8217;s not to say that it&#8217;s easy or always algorithmically efficient, but I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any danger of impossibility on the horizon.</p>
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